other rev message boards

[flyby]

i keep hearing people talk about ISF, or Che-Lives or other left message boards.

But I can't seem to find them.

Can someone list some of the main ones (in clickable links) and then give a sentence or two about what their strengths, weaknesses and political tendencies are?

And if i wanted to help you guys post on those boards, where would i start?

[Deleted]

Che-Lives: www.che-lives.com/forum/

Strengths: large membership, good variety of viewpoints
Weaknesses: many members are pretty clueless Che fanboys

ISF: www.socialistfront.org/forum/

Strengths: umm....
Weaknesses: a lot of hero worship and intolerance of people who point that out

[Andrei_X]

Che-Lives
www.che-lives.com/
My Thoughts: A very, very, very large site with a variety of views. However, the immense size of this behemoth makes it an extremely overwhelming thing to search through, and you have to dig around through a lot of stupid shit in order to find some true gems. It is also risky to uphold Stalin and/or Mao, or risk being banned or restricted due to the fact that the administrator Malte is a sectarian Luxemborgist/Council-Communist that hates Hoxhaites and Marxist-Leninist-Maoists.
Main Political Factions: Focoists/Guervarists/Castroites, sectarian Anarchists, sectarian Trotskyists, Soviet nostalgists, sectarian "Stalinists"/Hoxhaites.

International Socialist Front
www.socialistfront.org/
My Thoughts: This is my personal favorite place because it less busy than Che-Lives, conversation is a great deal deeper and more interesting, and the people are much less sectarian (though sectarian does exist here to a degree- some disrespectful attitudes to Anarchists and Trotskyists exist). A lot of interesting questions come up here and a lot of youth seem to come around this site. However, the administrator Comrade Juinichi says that he is running out of money to keep the site up and so sadly ISF's days may be numbered
Main Political Factions: Mostly Hoxhaites and anti-revisionist Marxist-Leninists, Bolivarians/Latin-American Populists, Jucheists, some Trotskyists and Anarchists, 1 or 2 Maoists, some Soviet nostalgists.

Politics Forum
www.politics-forum.org/
My Thoughts: I ain't on this one, and this one ain't just left-wing stuff. It's huge like Che-Lives but that's because it's a general politics board. Since I don't post there, I can't really say much, but a lot of my friends are on there and a few AWIP members are members of P-F members too.
Main Political Factions: Everything, but a great deal of Communists of every single type.

Soviet-Empire
www.soviet-empire.com/
My Thoughts: I have a loooooong history with this website when I and many other upholders of Stalin/Mao were banned. Actually... I'm only listing this as a warning NOT to go here. It is nothing more than a collection of Soviet nostalgia freaks and moronic kids that want to play games. Don't waste your time unless you're really bored and want to watch reactionary types react in utterly hilarious ways.
Main Political Factions: Soviet social-imperialists of all types, Russian Nationalists/National Bolsheviks, Gorbachevites, CP-USA/YCL-USA kiddos, Red-Alert gamers and roleplayers, more reactionary Trotskyists... do I need to go on any further?...

Workers Unite!
workersunite.proboards19.com/
My Thoughts: A small lil' place where a lot of the same people from ISF and AWIP post at. Just beginning, and I don't post there, so I don't know what to say about it.
Main Political Factions: WWP supporters, anti-revisionist Marxist-Leninists.

Fight the Octopus!
www.fighttheoctopus.com/
My Thoughts: This place I was introduced to through my Anarchist friend Edo, and it is a very friendly and fun little website. Mainly dedicated to the anti-globalization movement and stuff centered around that, this place is a pretty big place with a very closely-knit core of friendly Anarchist punk kids.
Main Political Factions: Almost all Anarchists; some "undecided" youth. I am the only Communist member there.

Axis of Justice
pub179.ezboard.com/baxisofjustice
My Thoughts: Another big site, founded by none other than Tom Morrello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave. A nice website full of generally progressive people, including basically anyone left of the Democrats. Expect a lot of different viewpoints here, but with a great deal of seriousness and activism, and less bullshit than Che-Lives.
Main Political Factions: Everything left-wing that ain't Democrat, it's here, and even some Democrats too!

2ChangeTheWorld
2changetheworld.info/
My Thoughts: Well, surely everyone here knows about this place by now; it's the discussion forums concerning The Draft Programme of the Revolutionary Communist Party USA, and contains some of the deepest theoretical and philosophical discussion I have ever seen on the internet.
Main Political Factions: Marxist-Leninist-Maoists, Black Nationalists, Religious Progressives, Anarchists, Feminists, and even some CP-USA types.

That's all I can think of right now... if I remember/find any more later I'll let you know.

[porol]

the coup and public enemy have good boards too

[carlos]

My favorite is marx mail even though it is dominated by social democrats, trots, and chauvinists who are hostile to the national liberation of captive nations. Very white, very workerist, but still a good resource.

www.marxmail.org/

They have gotten into alot of interesting things in the past like Fukuyama, Hart-Negri's Empire, the Brenner thesis, analytical Marxism, etc. They also have alot of first person naratives of older activists and their experiences in the 60s mass movement and new social movements. Very interesting if you are discerning enough to take in the information without buying in to the social democratic slant.

[uh]

porol: you didn't post links to the coup and rage boards.

please?

[parole]

the coup is at
atomicboards.com/board.pl?user=minor_coup

public enemy is at
www.publicenemy.com/eb2/list.php?f=1

I didn't mention rage, but it has two boards
bbs.artistdirect.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=20445
bbs.sonymusic.com/wwwthreads.pl?action=list&Board=ratm

[honky tonk]

someone on the coup site is asking who is huey.

someone who is on that site should post this link -- rwor.org/a/1213/bahuey.htm

and explain the relations between Chairman Avakian, the Panthers and today's RCP.

[redstar2000]

Andrei_X wrote (about Che-Lives): : A very, very, very large site with a variety of views. However, the immense size of this behemoth makes it an extremely overwhelming thing to search through, and you have to dig around through a lot of stupid shit in order to find some true gems. It is also risky to uphold Stalin and/or Mao, or risk being banned or restricted due to the fact that the administrator Malte is a sectarian Luxemborgist/Council-Communist that hates Hoxhaites and Marxist-Leninist-Maoists.
Main Political Factions: Focoists/Guevarists/Castroites, sectarian Anarchists, sectarian Trotskyists, Soviet nostalgists, sectarian "Stalinists"/Hoxhaites.

A rather harsh verdict; Andre_X has not been banned or restricted, even though he posted a dreadful article about Bob Avakian and received numerous critical responses on the theme of "personalty cults".

Che-Lives is tough on people who just come on the board with abusive spam--"you fucking trot", "you dope-smoking anarchist hippie", etc. Such people quickly find themselves restricted to a forum we call Opposing Ideologies...where we also allow pro-capitalists to come and debate with us. If the abusive spam continues...then they will be banned.

But we do have at least one "Stalinist" who is unrestricted and one still-loyal retainer of the emperor in North Korea who is also unrestricted. The reason for that is that both can discuss matters of controversy without resorting to monotonous abuse.

I have to confess that we have one "sectarian anarchist" (the others are not) and one "sectarian Trotskyist"...perhaps the only active Trotskyist now posting. Our biggest current embarrassment is the existence of one social-imperialist--many of us are waiting for him to support the next imperialist war so we can slam his ass into Opposing Ideologies where he belongs.

The real characteristic of Che-Lives is that it is a board where people who are new and curious about the whole spectrum of left politics come to learn. We "old-timers" do our best to teach...in as "non-sectarian" a fashion as we can.

Our discussions are, admittedly, not always on the "highest" level...but some of them might surprise you.

And Malte does not "hate" Leninist-Maoists any more than I do...we just think you're wrong.

[roman]

The problem with che-lives is that there is too much spam to weed through. I get sick of weeding through all the "me too" posts. I think the level of discussion tends to be higher on this forum.

roman

[Deleted]

the only way to navigate through che-lives is to just click on the "View New Posts" link. This way, you can what's updated in every section. If there is an interesting thread, you can always click "Track this topic" and it will be listed when you go to "My Controls" and then click "View Topics"

[StalinRevolution]

And Malte does not "hate" Leninist-Maoists any more than I do...we just think you're wrong.

And then he calls you a "Stalin Kiddie" when you attempt to have any serious discussion with him.Not willing to have any intelligent discussion.I tried to debate with him about the Berlin Wall and he just kept saying "hahaha Stalin Kiddie".

[StalinRevolution]

Che-Lives is tough on people who just come on the board with abusive spam--"you fucking trot", "you dope-smoking anarchist hippie", etc. Such people quickly find themselves restricted to a forum we call Opposing Ideologies...where we also allow pro-capitalists to come and debate with us. If the abusive spam continues...then they will be banned.

That fact says a lot about the board.An anarchist,a hippie,a green,etc can make rude comments and it will be tolerated but a Stalinist can't without getting restricted.

[prol]

kinda new forum:
www.tommorello.net/forum/index.php

[porl]

audioslave (has political section)
forums.sonymusic.com/forum.jsp?forum=570

Dead prez
forums.sonymusic.com/forum.jsp?forum=592