I think the Mainstream Left is about to explode

[repeater138]

There is alot of movement in liberal circles right now. Alot of dissatisfaction and rage both with Democrats and with Bush.

It really seems like people on that side of things are ready, willing, and able to struggle on a whole new level in comparison to the anti-war and anti-bush marches.

I guess without getting too into it, there are so many things floating around and so much "chatter" that things really look like a powder keg. The Downing Street Memo is a BIG DEAL to these people. If something doesn't happen with it they're going to be beyond pissed. The Democrats seem to be slowly throwing meat to this, but they seem to be trying to control it and there is division in their ranks as to how to approach it. The difference between Conyers and Kerry's approach. At the same time Dean is alternately stirring things up and trying to cool them down. Then there is the larger society wide dissatisfaction with Bush's policies, which is going to embolden dissent and possibly magnify it.

I get a really wierd feeling, especially at a place online like DU (democraticunderground.com). Things are at a level there which is completely different in terms of the radicalness of it. Not to say they're all radical, but they seem to be impatient to get Bush out of power and are now considering going beyond the democratic party channels to pressure for impeachment (which they would have a hard time winning anyway given the set-up in the House and Senate). But this stuff is coming out more generally into the superstructure. There seems to be something of a buliding movement around this Downing Memo at the same time as there is alot of dissatisfaction with things. There are alot of stories coming through the main stream media, and even on the far right their is alot of dissatisfaction with Bush. I would just point to arch reactionary Michael Savage as one example. He has been getting more and more critical of Bush.

You can see just the response to the call to kick Bush out of office here: www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1856036&mesg_id=1863396

But if you peruse their forums for a small amount of time you'll see that this sentiment is everywhere.

I don't know... maybe it will turn out to be nothing, but I hope not.

[redstar2000SE]

Today's Supreme Court decision has evidently thrown fresh fuel on the fire, especially among "grass roots" conservatives.

As you probably know, the court ruled that it is consistent with the Constitution to seize private property, not merely for public use, but for the use of even bigger private property.

Before today, if a real estate speculator wished to "assemble a parcel" (put together a large piece of land) for commercial development, he had to negotiate a price with each individual owner of each portion of that land...often compelling him to "pay through the nose" and sometimes stopping the potential development in its tracks when homeowners refused to sell at any price.

Now, any governmental authority (city, county, state) may seize the required land from its present owners and turn around and sell or even give the land to the "developer".

It might someday be called "the Wal-Mart ruling" although Wal-Mart was not involved in the case. Suburban governments are eager to attract businesses that generate sales-tax revenue...and "big box" retailers fit their requirements perfectly.

It's also been suggested that this ruling is a dream come true for development-minded urban mayors -- Harlem may someday become as "white & wealthy" as it is now "black & poor".

Developers of big stadiums will also love this ruling -- it clears the way to displace thousands of people for a new monument to imperial splendor.

On one board this morning, both conservatives and liberals were squealing like stuck pigs about this ruling -- some were even talking about civil war and revolution.

Mindless blather for the most part -- yet there actually were a few posts that said bluntly that the Democrats and the Republicans are both "our enemies".

Interesting times ahead, eh?

[Cocobanjo]

Sure, the supreme court did indeed "raise some more flames", even if it's intention and purpose is to END IT. "Stomp those flames"! 'You shall not get past this final gate'

However, I am suspicious of law too. Probably good for the greater community and "collective",
but if it gains an individual (Yeah...on the stupid "Invidualism" vs "Collectivism" again)..especially a selfish one.... I would as HELL not support it. For woo'ya!