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Post by Guest on Oct 5, 2004 14:43:55 GMT -5
the website broadleft.org lists many, many, anti-revisionist groups across the globe. Most of which uphold Mao Tse-Tung and the gang of four. Why are these parties not in the RIM? Why is it that some small theoretical difference can prevent a whole party from joining a strong international movement which can only beniefit mankind. Why is that RIM seems to be so narrow about who joins and who doesn't.
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Post by 1949 on Oct 5, 2004 19:45:03 GMT -5
There are a few parties on that site's "anti-revisionists" list that I know about. -The so-called "Russian Maoist Party" is friendly towards MIM, a sect in the U.S. that is very hostile towards the RCP. -The Worker's Party of Belgium is a revisionist party. They make some "criticism" of the post-1956 USSR, but never actually said that capitalism was restored there with the 20th Congress of the CPSU, but with the 28th Congress in 1990. They also support revisionist countries like the DPRK, China, Cuba and Vietnam. WPB leader Ludo Martens writes in Another View of Stalin: "The media never stop reminding us that there are still, unfortunately, a few Stalinist outposts on the planet. Fidél Castro holds his little island like a Stalinist dinosaur. Kim Il Sung surpassed Stalin in the area of the cult of the personality. The Chinese butchers of Tien An Men Square are worthy successors of Stalin. A few dogmatic Vietnamese still have pictures of Hô Chi Minh and of Stalin. In short, the four countries that still uphold a socialist line are excommunicated from the `civilized' world in the name of Stalin. This incessant clamor is designed to bring out and reinforce `anti-Stalinist' bourgeois and petit-bourgeois currents in these countries." (http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/node5.html#SECTION00300200000000000000) As if there is anything socialist at all about the four countries listed, which there isn't. (The whole book can be found at www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html. It's actually a great historical book about Stalin, even if it is written by a revisionist.) -The All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks (Soviet Union) is similar to the WPB. AWTW had a great polemic against them which you can read here: www.awtw.org/back_issues/1998-23/bolsheviks_23ENg.htm. -There is a big list of Hoxhaist parties on that page. Hoxha turned revisionist with his denunciation of Mao in 1978. N. Sanmugathasan of the Ceylon Communist Party wrote a great article on Hoxha and Hoxhaism which you can find here: website.lineone.net/~partisan_britain/ISML/isml05/isml0505.html-The Communist Party of China turned revisionist after Mao's death in 1976, when Hua Guofeng and Deng Xiaoping staged a coup and arrested the Gang of Four. RW and AWTW have countless articles on this. Other than that, I don't know. I have a question: why isn't the Communist Party of the Philippines, led by Jose-Maria Sison, in the RIM? The RCP seems to be very supportive of the People's War there. |
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Post by RedWinter on Oct 6, 2004 14:24:10 GMT -5
I thought there were a lot of reds in Europe, but only Italy is represented in RIM. Sup with that  ? And if there are RIM-supporting groups forming in countries not listed in RIM literature, why aren't they listed as "in development" at least? At least South Asia is pretty damn solid. Good point about the Philippines communists, are they trying to avoid allying themselves with anyone internationally for tactical reasons, or ideological? |
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Post by 1949 on Oct 7, 2004 18:55:16 GMT -5
Also, what happened to the Haitian Revolutionary Internationalist Group, the New Zealand Red Flag Group, the Revolutionary Internationalist Contingent [Britain], and the Revolutionary Communist Union [Dominican Republic], all of which were listed in the RIM's 1984 Declaration but are not listed as being in the RIM anymore?
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Post by Burningman on Oct 8, 2004 10:44:24 GMT -5
Regarding the Haitian group, from discussions with numerous Haitian leftists, both in the States and from Haiti, the pro-RIM group had no public presence of any kind. It was most likely a very small group of people without the capacity to engage in popular organizing or struggle.
I'm not familiar with the Dominican group either, but the Dominican Workers Party (PTD), a formerly Maoist group, is active in New York in both popular struggles (with a base) and Democratic Party electorialism, unfortunately. They've been moving steadily to the right in the face of the world events.
Maybe the RIM should be small until it grows. There is a shitload of rightism in the ICM and drawing some hard lines helps make sure revoluionary communism exists at all.
If the basis of unity was substantially dropped, revolutionary politics might get mobbed into a the kind of line promoted by the Belgian Workers Party. It's like dyed meat: red on the outside, brown on the inside.
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On the other hand, the recent merger between the People's War Group and the MCCI is promising. The latter is a RIM party, the former is not. Maybe the line should be drawn enough to allow for the Philippine party to join. That seems to be the most substantian non-RIM Maoist group. They've gone through a left turn, have substantial popular support and could use the back-up of a revolutionary international.
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I think the RIM needs to open a debate about the Comintern and what's worth preserving and what needs to go. A public debate that is focused and factual.
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Post by Maz on Oct 12, 2004 20:15:29 GMT -5
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Post by OC on Oct 13, 2004 1:18:37 GMT -5
Odd, that a definition of the "genuine communist forces" actually excludes the majority of the Maoists waging People's War in the world today. Apparently, they don't all see the halo on Avakian's head.
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Post by Andrei_X on Oct 13, 2004 9:32:12 GMT -5
What are you talking about, OC? I'd have to say that the exact opposite is true- the majority (if not all) of the Maoist groups waging People's War today are genuine Communist forces, and I think the article from A World To Win recognizes that.
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Post by svarog on Feb 13, 2007 14:09:51 GMT -5
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Post by Ezekiel on Feb 26, 2007 4:05:55 GMT -5
This is from an article from AWTW News Service, about a conference on imperialism.
The suggestions of the Revolutionary Internationalist Movement and the CPI (Maoist) and the readiness of the parties and organisations to overcome all difficulties in order to be present were of great help in the successful organisation of the seminar. While the Communist Party of Afghanistan, Communist Party of Bhutan (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist), Communist Party of India (Maoist), Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist), Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) Naxalbari, Communist Party of Iran (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist), Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist), Communist Party of the Philippines, Maoist Communist Party-Italy, Maoist Communist Party (Turkey and North Kurdistan), Proletarian Party of East Bengal (CC) and the Proletarian Party of East Bengal (Maoist Unity Group) were participants, the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA and the Workers’ Party of Iran were observers.
RIM works with a lot of non-RIM organizations, and there are such things as 'candidate members' (I don't know what they are, but I've heard of them.) I suppose that someday, they will be in RIM.
There is also CCOMPOSA, Co-ordination Committee of Maoist Parties and Organizations of South Asia, many of which are RIM, and it appears all are pro-RIM.
Purba Bangala Sarbahara Party (PBSP) (CC) [Bangladesh]
Purba Bangala Sarbahara Party (PBSP) (MPK)[Bangladesh]
Bangladesh Sanyabadi Dal (BSD) (ML) [Bangladesh]
Communist Party of East Bangal CPEB (ML) [Bangladesh]
Ceylon Communist Party (Maoist)
Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leninist) [Naxalbari]
Communist Party of India (Marxist-Leniniist (PW)*
Maoist Communist Centre India *
Revolutionary Communist Centre RCCI (Maoist) [ India ] *
Revolutionary Communist Centre RCCI (MLM) [India]
Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist)
Bhutan Communist Party (MLM).
Purba Bangala Sarbahara Party PBSP (MBRM)
* CPI ML PW and MCCI united in 2004 and became Communist Party of India (Maoist). RCCIM had earlier joined with MCC and had forged MCCI.
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? And if there are RIM-supporting groups forming in countries not listed in RIM literature, why aren't they listed as "in development" at least? At least South Asia is pretty damn solid. Good point about the Philippines communists, are they trying to avoid allying themselves with anyone internationally for tactical reasons, or ideological?
